Lighthope

I thought in the Catholic Church you had to be dead to move up the Sainthood ladder. One of the criteria was to have miracles done in your name.

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Publicly, they said the game is in it's "final stage". They also said publicly that the only things they have left to work on are multiplayer connectivity and localization. Make of that what you will. For me, that tells me they only have two more things to do. They said localization take time because of all the detail that goes into it. I don't know about multiplayer.

They have been frustratingly mum on a release date. Probably because they were burned bad by the "Coming Soon" announcement, "soon" turning out to be a very long time that the phrase "vapour-ware" was starting to be thrown about. They did say it is mostly done, but there are problems with multiplayer connectivity they still need to work on. And localization QA. Other than that, it's done.

Oh yeah, expanded map that concentrates on a smaller area!!

The developers said they announced it too soon. They should have waited. It would have been better if they said "In Development" or a less specific "Coming". But Steam doesn't have that option. They did recently announce on the Steam forum that it is in its "final stage", so hopefully that means it isn't too far off. Maybe we'll get a date soon?

If you've seen the developer diaries, you'll know there is a lot different from the first one. Heck, spies alone are massively changed!

Been getting a lot of network errors trying to access this site over the last few days.

Outside of Knights of Honour, I am unfamiliar with the company. Do they release DLCs at all? You see, I don't want them to be one-and-done with Knights of Honour. I think it has the potential for expansions. We can have a Diplomacy Pack that greatly expands diplomacy. We can have an African and American Pack which lets us expand to those lands. There is a lot of potential here that should not be left unexplored simply because some people can't control themselves when it comes to buying DLCs. Buy them or don't.

I hear Europa Universalis is like that. I tried to play it but couldn't even read the bloody font! It was too blurry for me. Yeah, I hear it is pretty unforgiving. That, too. KoH is much more easy to get in to. Just wish it had more depth to it. That's a tough balance to do, however. Easy to learn, but once you learn have a lot more to do. I think maybe Civilization does this pretty well. Maybe. Crusader Kings definitely does not. Too high of a learning curve, but lots to do. Knights of Honour is on the other end. Easy to pick up, but not a lot of depth.

But you don't have to buy the DLC to play the game. I don't have any of them.

I'm playing CK3 right now. It's...different. Way too complicated, I think. More of a relationship simulator than anything else. Still, am giving it a try. Knights of Honour 2 is coming. It is. But I can't imagine it in the next few weeks, so go spend your money on CK3 and save up for KoH2 for when it finally comes out. Both games are different enough that you can play both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Isn't there already some talent or something that gives you a boost against other faiths? Does that include the excommunicated?

Really? I thought it was super easy? Just look for the male crown for an available prince and a female crown for an available princess.

That would suggest that the pillaging army didn't see the defenders coming to the rescue. Sure, they can be taken by surprise. On the other hand, they may have time to rally forces and prepare for the counterattack. Would you accept a compromise? Sometimes they are ready and sometimes they are caught off guard? The percentage affected by their stats?

I may be speaking out of turn since I don't know, but my guess is that they don't have a date themselves. So putting a date out there only to have to potentially change it isn't a good idea. Hence the generic "Coming Soon".

Great to see developer responses on the Steam KoH2 community forums!

They never said how Betas are being given out, so there is still hope!

I've often wondered about vassalage myself, since the goal is conquest. But vassalage does have advantages, such as getting some of their income. They should add an option to count vassal countries as part of the conquest. Based on the Developer Diaries, KoH2 has a lot more to it than KoH1.

Sure, you can certainly do all that, but that is now how the game is designed. It's designed to "win".

That would be an awful lot of music. Somewhere reality has to set in.

I'd like to see DLC. I don't want the game to be one-and-done. They need a way to keep making money once the box is bought, and DLC is a great way to continue seeing more of the game.

It wasn't perfect, and I am a bit surprised KoH2 is moving toward the capture-the-flag condition that TW uses, though I can understand the thinking behind it.

I think the map has plenty of provinces. Really, by the time you get to a certain size, you're unstoppable. The rest of the time you're just roll-stomping the enemy. I totally agree with this. Or even a random generator, though that would have to be a headache to implement.

I've been auto-battling everything in my most recent playthrough, but a good battle is always fun. I certainly don't want to see it skimped on. Playing battles is a major necessity for a lost of people. You'd be severely limiting your audience if you didn't have one included or did a poor job. cf. Lords of the Realm 3, which did practically everything wrong.