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Knights of Honor's official site says that the game will release in 2020, but it's December now and no announcement of the next DevDiary and DevStream. Already the recent DevDiary released a month ago has 3 part series of "Diplomacy", so we have more 2 parts to be released, but no announcement yet, which makes it obvious that there are feeble chances for 2020 release which was previously promised. 2020 Release is false as it seems now. I personally feel that the game developers owe no reponsibility to the game fans as they should have announced the delayed date atleast. The Game's Senior Producer Brad says that they respond to us, but I have not seen any body from the game marketers or makers to give an announcement or reply to the questions asking about the game release or the devdiary release. Knights of Honor II: Sovereign is now becoming a Myth Game. Its more of mythology than history I guess because 2020 release is a myth now. And the developers seem relaxed in the devstream. They know people will wait so they don't owe any responsibility in atleast announcing the delay deadline. I know COVID-19 may have delayed things but the game makers should have announced the new deadline atleast. It's game I know not a thing of such importance but still we will pay money to buy it so however funky it looks it's still a product and hence the product maker should owe a responsibility in announcing the delayed deadline to the potential game buyers or the game fans. I know after reading this content of mine the game makers won't respond but still I have posted it to see the extent of "no care" attitude the game makers have. 2020 A BIG LIE!

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Should be obvious it's not coming in 2020. Them refusing to talk about the release delay at all seems like a really weird move to me. 

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No one owes you anything. A commercial company is trying to make a commercial product. You happen to be on the market for a product of that nature. But the product is not done and not available. If it is the problem for you - buy something else. How about Star Citizen? Any time now.

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12 hours ago, William Blake said:

No one owes you anything. A commercial company is trying to make a commercial product. You happen to be on the market for a product of that nature. But the product is not done and not available. If it is the problem for you - buy something else. How about Star Citizen? Any time now.

I did not say that someone owes me anything, I said they as a product seller, owe a responsibility to their potential buyers and their product fans, a concern which every product seller must have to thier potential buyers and product fans. If potential buyers are not important then why do the product seller do marketing and advertisement?? To raise demand and inform about their upcoming or ongoing product, right?? Here the game makers did make a very big announcement that 2020 it is coming, by some reason there was a delay but they don't care to inform the new launch date or month. Delays happen, I am also an owner of a web and software firm and we also have delays in product launch, but if we make public announcement, we have to annouce that we are in delay if something is not on time. This game maker doesn't have that concern. It's not about what I buy, I did not ask for suggestion and I did not ask any help, neither I said I am in a problem, I just commented that the Game Maker is not professional and is least concerned and doesn't care what they say publicly and release statements without any care. I know they will make a good product at the end, no questions about it, but their selling behaviour has a "no care" attitude. This is called pure careless marketing, where you don't care about the buyer but you do care about the product sales. It's nothing to  do with what I buy, it is about something unprofessional from the Game makers.

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On 12/1/2020 at 5:35 PM, Frosti said:

Should be obvious it's not coming in 2020. Them refusing to talk about the release delay at all seems like a really weird move to me. 

They know people will buy the game, when it releases, so they don't care what people think of it now. They don't care about their PR.

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6 hours ago, Sairaj said:

I just commented that the Game Maker is not professional and is least concerned and doesn't care what they say publicly and release statements without any care. I know they will make a good product at the end, no questions about it, but their selling behaviour has a "no care" attitude. This is called pure careless marketing, where you don't care about the buyer but you do care about the product sales. It's nothing to  do with what I buy, it is about something unprofessional from the Game makers.

It appears that you are upset because you can't play a game, it happens. But this personal issue aside, let me respond to you main point.

There are people, many people involved, there are multiple companies involved, everyone has plans and then real life collides with all that. What you saw as most likely outcome and schedule a year ago is now different or not even possible. As project is developing studio looks at it, publisher looks at it, things change, expectations change, issue come and go. Market changes around you, there are good launch windows in terms of time an there are bad one.

If in a middle of all that the game shows more promise and budget increase you can spend more time adding features, or if budget shrinks and you have less manpower your plans also get extended in time.

Back a year ago in the plan was to get it out in 2020, now it is not. As they see how plans are getting changed they are not ready to commit to another date they can't potentially meet.

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On 12/3/2020 at 11:33 PM, William Blake said:

It appears that you are upset because you can't play a game, it happens. But this personal issue aside, let me respond to you main point.

There are people, many people involved, there are multiple companies involved, everyone has plans and then real life collides with all that. What you saw as most likely outcome and schedule a year ago is now different or not even possible. As project is developing studio looks at it, publisher looks at it, things change, expectations change, issue come and go. Market changes around you, there are good launch windows in terms of time an there are bad one.

If in a middle of all that the game shows more promise and budget increase you can spend more time adding features, or if budget shrinks and you have less manpower your plans also get extended in time.

Back a year ago in the plan was to get it out in 2020, now it is not. As they see how plans are getting changed they are not ready to commit to another date they can't potentially meet.

Yeah, I am not unhappy for not playing a game, I am ofcourse very much eager to play this game but the delay in release did not upset me, I am not saying that delay in launch is something bad or unprofessional. As I already said I run a software firm where I also face delays in our launch. Delay happens, no issues at all. But there is some accountability when you go public with the launch, I mean the delay should be announced officially and whatever you said that plans are getting changed and the game makers are not ready to commit to another date they can't potentially meet, this same thing the game makers should convey that due to global crisis or whatever factors they are unable to meet the planned deadline and hence, the launch will also be delayed and the date of launch is not quite certain at the moment keeping in mind of the work left. They always owe an answer because they have gone public with big announcement and adverstisements and now when people are confused and asking questions they are not answering and keeping quite about it, however casual their product is doesn't matter, I know it is just a game but yes it is also a product that has a value for money, it is not that casual to them, may be for us it's just a game but not for them. It's not the question of me not playing and being disappointed is not the question, it is a question about the game makers of the importance they give to their public relations and behaviour. Me not able to play this game now is not a problem, will get to play other games so never a problem and the delay is not a problem too, not answering the public and keeping quite and paying no heed is a problem ofcourse. I hope I am clear enough of what I wanted to say because it doesn't concern my personal dissapointment of not playing the game because of the delay. 

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13 minutes ago, Sairaj said:

Yeah, I am not unhappy for not playing a game, I am ofcourse very much eager to play this game but the delay in release did not upset me, I am not saying that delay in launch is something bad or unprofessional. As I already said I run a software firm where I also face delays in our launch. Delay happens, no issues at all. But there is some accountability when you go public with the launch, I mean the delay should be announced officially and whatever you said that plans are getting changed and the game makers are not ready to commit to another date they can't potentially meet, this same thing the game makers should convey that due to global crisis or whatever factors they are unable to meet the planned deadline and hence, the launch will also be delayed and the date of launch is not quite certain at the moment keeping in mind of the work left. They always owe an answer because they have gone public with big announcement and adverstisements and now when people are confused and asking questions they are not answering and keeping quite about it, however casual their product is doesn't matter, I know it is just a game but yes it is also a product that has a value for money, it is not that casual to them, may be for us it's just a game but not for them. It's not the question of me not playing and being disappointed is not the question, it is a question about the game makers of the importance they give to their public relations and behaviour. Me not able to play this game now is not a problem, will get to play other games so never a problem and the delay is not a problem too, not answering the public and keeping quite and paying no heed is a problem ofcourse. I hope I am clear enough of what I wanted to say because it doesn't concern my personal dissapointment of not playing the game because of the delay. 

Stop being a little bitch...they will release it once is done!

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2 minutes ago, Prince of Zeta said:

Stop being a little bitch...they will release it once is done!

I know as****e that they will release it once it is done! I think everybody knows that isn't it?? You know what small as***les like you knew about it yesterday. Lol! Poor as***le!

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16 hours ago, Sairaj said:

I know as****e that they will release it once it is done! I think everybody knows that isn't it?? You know what small as***les like you knew about it yesterday. Lol! Poor as***le!

LOL what a kid

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We got a response from Brad, the senior producer! Thank you for atleast providing an update with the game delay and explaining the problems and issues! This is what we all wanted to know about. Thank you for the response which was much awaited. Take your time we want the best game! 

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On 12/5/2020 at 11:21 PM, Sairaj said:

We got a response from Brad, the senior producer! Thank you for atleast providing an update with the game delay and explaining the problems and issues! This is what we all wanted to know about. Thank you for the response which was much awaited. Take your time we want the best game! 

Where can I find his response?

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He said in the 13th Dev Stream, that it will take time and explained why. Atleast he spoke on it for 10 mins

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I personally believe that people are being very impatient and since we have the plague progress is slowed down for every game in development. It would be best for them to take their time and deliver a well polished game with minimal glitches. I don't want this dream to turn into another Cyberpunk incident where developers get suicide messages just because they are delaying the game... Now that would be very heartbreaking. As long as we support them and offer feedback/constructive criticism and give them time to breathe/develop the game properly I am sure that we will have a wonderful game and a worthy sequel.

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My guess is that we'd be lucky to even see the game in 2021.  It's not even in Alpha yet if they are still adding systems.

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On 1/10/2021 at 7:40 AM, Lighthope said:

Not everyone listens to the Dev Stream. I don't.

But that doesn't mean that he did not say it. He gave a statement and that is cool, because he showed his responsibility atleast as a game producer team should. If you don't listen to the dev stream then you missed it, it is totally your choice.

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On 1/10/2021 at 9:09 PM, ÆternaTristitia said:

I personally believe that people are being very impatient and since we have the plague progress is slowed down for every game in development. It would be best for them to take their time and deliver a well polished game with minimal glitches. I don't want this dream to turn into another Cyberpunk incident where developers get suicide messages just because they are delaying the game... Now that would be very heartbreaking. As long as we support them and offer feedback/constructive criticism and give them time to breathe/develop the game properly I am sure that we will have a wonderful game and a worthy sequel.

Well atleast I did not post this topic because I was impatient, I posted this topic because there was no reponse from them about the game progress status, they announced a date, they couldn't fulfill no probs but say something atleast! Alas they spoke about it, now it's cool! atleast I am content they spoke about it, which they should. I did not exactly mean that the game developers should speak about it leaving the game development, I actually meant for the game production team to speak about this, they owe the responsibility. They did their responsibility, explained their position, progress and also the situation they went by. I think we all should be happy that they took the care to speak on it. Atleast I am happy because I was expecting a comment and I got it. But there are some impatients people still hovering around for quick flash games😀. I may sound a bit similar but I am not among them.

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